tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-265511791146423221.post1403027706190102728..comments2023-10-28T02:59:37.028-07:00Comments on E m e r g i n g ...Q u a k e r i s m ..L i t e r a t u r e ..R e l i g i o n ... L i f e: Plain Secrets: Faith PracticesDianehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12396312339372162866noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-265511791146423221.post-19346151638508846152008-08-07T08:27:00.000-07:002008-08-07T08:27:00.000-07:00Cath,It was clear from Mackall's book that women w...Cath,<BR/><BR/>It was clear from Mackall's book that women were second-class citizens. I wouldn't be surprised if they had no say over any details of the worship either. Which is why the rights they have--to challenge the Ordnung and nominate a minister--are all the more striking. Sadly, though, social indoctrination has apparently made these rights more theoretical than real. Mackall says women simply never challenge the Ordnung. Men do.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396312339372162866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-265511791146423221.post-73069523573717841222008-08-06T10:56:00.000-07:002008-08-06T10:56:00.000-07:00The Amish communities I'm acquainted with don't al...The Amish communities I'm acquainted with don't allow women much in the way of leadership opportunities, at home or in church. For example, only men can choose hymns to be sung in church. And that's just a small thing in terms of leadership.<BR/><BR/>cathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-265511791146423221.post-88448926945297975442008-08-05T18:51:00.000-07:002008-08-05T18:51:00.000-07:00Bill,Interesting. I don't know the history but fin...Bill,<BR/><BR/>Interesting. I don't know the history but find the parallels fascinating. It could well have been different groups with access to vernacular Bibles drawing the same conclusions.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396312339372162866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-265511791146423221.post-62968612788022665132008-08-05T17:29:00.000-07:002008-08-05T17:29:00.000-07:00It's generally thought the Anabaptist movement had...It's generally thought the Anabaptist movement had little influence on the development of Quakerism. They seem to rather be separate developments with significant similarities.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I remember reading something I think by George Fox that was quite hostile to the Anabaptists. This related to the strain in early Quaker thinking that practicing the sacraments outwardly was inherently inconsistent with experiencing them inwardly, which I personally find absurd (although it fit with their logic for rejecting outward observances) and some other prominent early Quakers don't seem to have expressed.Bill Samuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752443575410023776noreply@blogger.com